To all SS-20 fans – I am writing to make sure you know about a Jockey Club reunion of sorts. The Cincinnati publishing concern Aurore Press is presenting a
collection of stories, art, photos called “Stories for Shorty” To commemorate the publication a concert is being presented at the historic Southgate house in Newport. The Thangs, The Libertines, SS-20, BPA, and The Reduced are all on the billfold Home week if you will. Saturday November 22, JFK Day. SS-20 will also play an acoustic show at 5 in the afternoon on the same day. We are hoping to host an open forum and have some fun at Shake it records in Northside. I have no doubt that this story will push presidential politics off the Major Media outlets, so stay tuned. Robert “Jughead “Sturdevant.

on 2-11-87, Manwich opened for 63 eyes. The band referred to this as the "Wild Turkey" gig... all the girls in the band showed up early and drank a shitload of Turkey...

I'll make a few excuses. Few days back I lost a big bank of messages, pfffft gone! I noticed awhile after it happened, I'm like, where did the mexican pig torture pic go?? ohhh.....After stewing for a day or two and failing to think my way out of this situation, I attempted a manual resurrection, and man alive that just wasn't happening. maybe over the course of the next few YEARS i'll fix a few if i saved the emails. But it was all enough on my fragile constitution that I decided henceforth to let TOM handle all my problems, so hopefully most of the world is part of creepspace: http://www.myspace.com/thejockeyclub633

I'll make no excuses. I do have one more DVD to do for the Studio 2086 compilation DVD set... It's coming around. Life got in the way. I told my kids of some of the acts we did at the JC and they didn't believe me so I sent them to Bryce's endeavor to compile a huge amount of calendar info and pics. Now they believe me! Great job Bryce, of keeping something great alive There was a synergy: people like Bill and Clem, Pauli and Jughead, Dave Davis, Tiny and Shorty, an improbable dichotomy that some how worked. Add the paneling falling off the walls, enough mold for a penicillin factory but I think it was the shithole johns that held it all together. That and the Foster's...I got the idea of flying the front monitor in a dream. Lots of people asked me which was my favorite JC act. It's easy: DOA hands down. Their version of 'Singing in the Rain' knocked me out. Dementia Precox was up there. I think Suicidal Tendencies were some of the most talented players to walk in the place. Damn, there were so many! One NYE, we were doing 5 bands: 45 minute sets, line check and go. It's like 11:30 and I got a band started and ran to the john. I burst in the door and there's like a dozen guys just standing around. Everybody looked at me like I had 2 heads. 12 guys hanging out in THAT bathroom....I knew something was up. I did my business and went back to the sound board. I went back the next day to sort through the mess of wires on the stage and said something to Shorty. He chuckles with a Pall Mall stuck to his lower lip and says in that I've-smoked-Pall Malls-all-my-life voice, "Ah there was some fat chick in there givin' blow jobs for a buck!" I caught the crabs once in my life... from the JC shitter. I shoulda known better. A friend of mines son wears Liberty spikes. His dad hates it. I told him he's an old fuck. We had a laugh. Where's Bill L? Soowwsage, Ace! He split his head wiiidddeee open! 

ha ha ha secret to the wise... joettamlickteig@yahoo DO NOT tell anyone! !! 

So, I stopped in to the Northside Tavern for a beer last night and struck up a conversation with a guy named Dave who used to, back in the day, play in a Cincinnati punk band called the F***ing C*unts.  He had fond memories of the Jockey Club, remembered Ho Ho Records, the Pods, Jughead, etc. 

Howdy! Ms.Joetta here to say what the @#&*? Who is monitoring this awesome site anyway? I would love to hear from whomever it is that responds to this bible of a web page!  BUT please do not respond from this address. Follow the dots behind... Jockey Club memories forever! Shorty rules! and punk never died... Respect Yo, Ms. Joetta M Lickteig
joettamlickteig@yahoo.com 

Greetings from New Jersey to Bryce, Bill Leist, Jughead, Handsome Clem Carpenter, Dave Davis, Dave Lewis, Chris Lewis, Todd Witt and anyone else who was active at the JC in the 80's.  Bryce, you've done a really great job on the JC site. The photos in particular bring back vivid memories and the calendar is really exhaustive; although I see no mention of the night that Blanco Nombre played with the Insect Surfers from DC and absolutely no one was there. I would like everyone to know that Chuck Swanson and I have started a site www.blanconombre.com. It will tell the whole story of the band from its Jockey Club beginnings. Chapter One is already posted. This tells the story of the band before the girls arrived. In time, we plan to have downloadable recordings of our surf instrumentals on the site. My favourite JC shows were the two nights that the Dead Kennedy's played, and really early on I was impressed with Somebody that Dave Davis played in. NYC is great. There is a club here called the Mercury Lounge which is very similar to the JC. It's on Houston Street. Well, that's about all, Best regards to everyone,   John Murray 

Hello, My name is John, I sang for The Fluid.  Pete was our road manager for several years and we were also friends in NYC
within the last 8 years or so.  I've lost contact info for him. We're reuniting after 15 years.  Pete's a part of the story. If you have any email, etc. please pass it on to me or forward this to him. Many thanks!  John 

Thanks for posting these pictures of the old Jockey Club in Newport. I went to a lot of these shows between 82-88. I just found an old ticket stub from the Lords of the New Church show on May 21st. I'll scan it and send it to you.  Chris 

The best years of my life.  I am even in some of the pictures.  RIP Jesse. 

Is there any way to get a copy or cd-r burn for review of the surf material? Please check my websites. Thanks! Phil Dirt
Reverb Central http://reverbcentral.com PO Box 1609 Felton, CA 95018-1609 USA http://www.myspace.com/reverbcentral 

Hey, Got a correction and a couple of additions for the Jockey Club web site. First, on the schedule page, 6/29/1985 shows TSOL playing.  This is not correct because TSOL cancelled that night.  Mexican Pig Torture was scheduled to open for TSOL and wen 

Starting in about '85, I started piling in the car with my cronies from Dayton and make the trip to the Jockey on a regular basis. I was but a young pup, but the chance of not being able to get in the door was a small price to pay. Although I have many memories of sitting outside the club listening to bands play and chomping at the bit, I did slip in from time to time and witnessed quite a few moments of punk rock history. Still horrified by the restrooms..however they were rivaled by Brookwood Hall in years to come.   Frank Harmon 

I know some of you must be holding some pictures. Cough them up! George see if you can dig up a couple, later Bill
Bryce the post have slowed a bit ey! I still have some of greg culls original art screens. If I shoot them will you post them? How are you doing on space on this site? take care Bill Brady 

I WANT TO SHARE MY FIRST J.C. EXPERIANCE W/ ALL YOU RELICS. IT WAS WINTER 83 AND THE AUBURNAIRES WERE PLAYING. IT WAS THE FIRST TIME I SAW THEM AS WELL. THE PLACE WAS FOR THE MOST PART EMPTY BUT THE BAND AND PLACE BLEW MY MIND. BEAR IN MIND THAT IN THOSE DAYS IF A BAND WANTED TO PLAY A CLUB YOU HAD TO PLAY WEBN TYPE STUFF AND GO THROUGH A BOOKING AGENCY. IT ALL SOUNDS CRAZY NOW BUT ANYWAY GETTING BACK TO MY STORY .THIS GIRL NAME OF PAM AND MYSELF WERE GETIN COZY IN THE BACK CORNER ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE BAR WATCHIN THIS BAND THAT JUST TOTALLY BLEW ME AWAY WHEN THIS OLD NEWPORT GIRL MORE THAN A LITTLE PAST HER PRIME JUMPED UP ON STAGE AND STARTED GRINDING TO THE BAND THE SINGER(VINCE )BACKED OFF ANDTHE BASS PLAYER (PETE) JUMPED IN FRONT OF THE OL TRIXIE LOOKED BEHIND AND SWUNG HIS P BASS BACK AND CRACKED OL TRIXIE RITE UPSIDE THE HEAD OF COARSE THE BAND DIDNT MISS A BEAT I WAS TRULY IN HEAVEN THE OL GIRL GOT BACK UP A FEW MINUTES LATER AND WAS CRACKED AGAIN THIS TIME VINCE HELPED OLD GIRL OFFSTAGE . I ASKED PETE IF HE REMEMBERED THAT INCEDENT AND HIS REPLY WAS " I DONT KNOW WHAT YOUR TALKING ABOUT. YEAH WHATEVER I KNOW WHAT I SAW. ALSO EVERYONE KNOWS THE STIFF KITTENS WERE THE HOUSE BAND @ THE J.C      BILL BOEDDEKER 

I came across your site again recently, and thought you may be interested in this link of a video I uploaded It's Suicidal Tendencies performing "Institutionalized" at the Jockey Club.   I had emailed you a few years back as 'bigdaddylucifer@aol.com'.  I've since converted the old VHS to DVD-R of Suicidal Tendencies.
http://www.youtube.com/?v=AVNEhrpp7Ik    -Bryan 

Howdy Jockey Clubbers. If anyone is interested I was interviewed on this website out of Northern California called Terminal Boredom concerning Snare & the Idiots and the Jockey Club/Cincinnati Punk Rock scene in general. The web address is
http://terminal-boredom.com/snare.html  if you want to check it out.  Snare 

what's up man. i need to know if you can get or have any circa 80's punk like d.o.a. or anything like the stuff they used to play on the night waves?the only reason i ask now is that i might be able to get a few of my close friends a full paying job at a real radio station of my choice.my cousin's long time boyfriend is a licensed chiropractor and he owns 25 radio stations in the tristate area and he left me an open invite anytime i might have a notion.let me know okay.thanx dude! p.s. i can provide what ever blank cd's tapes or whatever you need man so let me know. 

Dont' forget the Fanatics. Played the Jockey Club in the early years. Mike Martin (guitar), Steve Ewan (drums) and Greg McAvoy (bass). Steve Ewan also played somewhere in time with AK 47 and Mike Martin played with SS 20.  Still a Punk 

A few weeks ago I bought a ticket to a Gang of Four show here in Houston. The show was scheduled for a Tuesday night at a club called the Meridian. It was the first concert I had bought a ticket for in the 7 years I've lived in Houston. The Gang of Four's web page said 9 PM was the starting time. It did not mention any opening acts. Maybe the club web page did and I should've checked. Anyway, I bought a ticket in advance, which had a rip off "service" fee attached, and then had to pay $5 to park when I got to the club. I got in the club around 8:45 and saw there were TWO opening acts and that the main act would start around 11 PM. My heart sank. Two opening acts on a Tuesday night for a show that starts at 9 PM. What are people thinking? Who is at a Gang of Four show but a 38 year old punk rock has-been like me who has to be at work the next day? I had figured on possibly one opening act. I had something to read like I always did when I went to clubs in Cincinnati. I never could stand all the damn noise without something to read and tune it out. But the club was so fucking dark. The bar had a little light. I guess I could've sat there If I had really wanted to. But I was not going to drink. It used to be I could walk home from Short Vine. In Houston, I have to drive home. All my Jockey Club days I did not drink so it never mattered. In Cincinnati I could always read and I had friends to talk with. I went to the clubs to see my friends. If the band was interesting that was a bonus. I don't know any of the punk rock has-beens in Houston. I looked at the other people at the show and wondered if any of them were like the people I knew in Cincinnati. Though since it was so fucking dark, I could not really see the other people. In addition to being a punk rock has-been, in Houston I am a punk rock nobody. I missed my Cincinnati friends.  And what about the cigarette smoke? I can't stand it anymore. Back in the day I'd be in a bar every night. How many nights did I spend in Sub Galley? What a fine dump that was.On many weekends I'd be at Turfway or River Downs with my father and the smoke in those places was thick. I used to okay with the smoke. At the Meridian the smoke got to me after five minutes.  I watched the opening band set up for the 9 PM starting time. I was thinking I could not take it for two hours. I hardly gave a shit about most of the bands 20 years ago. I sure don't care today. The thought of two opening bands in that smoky, so fucking dark club for two hours was more than I could stand. Not able to read, no friends, no alcohol. I left after about 15 minutes. I really wanted to see Gang of Four but it was all too much.  Somebody wrote "You can't go home again." Well.. I'd be fine at a BPA/ Human Zoo show in the presence  of my comrades. But other than that, I guess I've pretty much hung up my hockey stick. Neil Aquino 

Come over to the Jockey Club Frapper Map and add your location and shout out to let everyone know where you've wandered off to since the gory days! http://www.frappr.com/thejockeyclub I've been there! What's your excuse?
Then head over to the Jockey Club T-Shirt Shoppe http://www.cafepress.com/gigocorp/972704 to pick out some Xmas gifts for your mailman and those undercover cops that keep sitting outside your house swilling coffee. Black t-shirts are coming soon. Let me know if you have any ideas for cool Jockey Club shirts and accessories.  Bill Igerent  tim@gigocorp.com 

Hello: The Hospital Records reunion show at the Southgate House was quite a blast and it was great to see so many friends.  BPA rocked, of course.  Many thanks to Darren Blase for putting on a wonderful bash. There's only one problem:  I have no photos of the Human Zoo portion of the show.  I lent my camera to a friend but the photos all came out blurry.  Does anyone have some photos they would be willing to share?  Please email me.  Also, someone was taking video of the show.  I'd love to get a copy of that as well.  Please advise if you took the video or know who did. Thanks! Karl Meyer interplanetarymusic@yahoo.com 

Hey wow I'm 40 and still alive! Who'd a thought  Bob Mould was great and played some good old HUSKER DU from LSR and more Monty Scheadler 

Just had to drop a quick one line what a great site thanks for all the effort Bryce, and all. I just checked and the only band that I could find listed on the calendar that I played in was Perfect Jewish Couple. And I was only with them on their backing tape. Otherwise, I was there with Menage a Trois, the Beef reunion show, and (twice I think) The Nervous Pioneers. Info on Beef and The Nervous Pioneers (and the Verbs) is at http://www.neussubjex.net/zero/ Menage a Trois had Shari Lauter of Perfect Jewish Couple on violin and keys, Mark Chenault on drums and me on alto sax and guitar. It was our only gig and we where probably with PJC that night. The Beef reunion show (est. 1976) was with The Verbs and maybe PJC, maybe and/or someone else. I know that The NP played there at least once, but have no idea who with. That's all for now but I'll be back with some tales and I'll dig up some picks that I have from the Beef reunion and send them in. 

Best wishes from Tundra Town- Sorry to miss tomorrow night's show, and had intended to make the drive. Hello to all, and if you want to read mean reviews and see the summer's pictures check on In The Valley of the Shadow of the Handbarrow. no site--but there's things out there, anyway hey to Uncle Dave and everyone! 

It was great to see some of the old JCer's in one place last weelend at Jon Dameron's fundraiser. I don't know if many funds were raised,but it was alot of fun.Maybe some of us will run into each other again at the BPA/Human Zoo show this
weekend. Bevo Forever!-Snare 

More info:
What:   Thangs reunion gig with the Cole Brothers.  First Thangs show in 17 years
When:   Saturday, October 1.   Show opens at 8 pm, Cole Brothers play at 9 pm, Thangs play at 10:30
Where:  The Fifth Amendment, 4114 Hamilton Avenue, Northside
Why:   Fundraiser for Jonny Dameron, former Jockey Club regular, who is a Democrat running for judge in Hamilton County
Cost:   $20 which will include the music and everyone should get a cd or single from the Cole Brothers, the Auburnaires or the Thangs.  You can buy tickets in advance or at the door.  Contact Gina at 623-6208 

Subject: Human Zoo 20th Anniversary Reunion  Cincinnati's notorious Human Zoo, founded in 1985, marks its 20th anniversary this year.  In celebration, the original line-up will reunite for one gig only, at the Southgate House in Newport, Kentucky on Saturday night, October 8th. The Zoo will appear as part of a multi-band Hospital Records CD release party, which will also reunite BPA, 11,000 Switches, Cointelpro, and Dementia Praecox. Not only am I delighted to get back together with my Zoo cohorts, but getting to see the other Hospital bands will be a real treat as well.  These cutting edge bands inspired me and many others to get off our butts and start bands.  Hope you can make it. Here is the Southgate House calendar page.  Click on October.
http://www.southgatehouse.com/NewWebsite/CalendarHome.htm
Bill Weber put up a little Human Zoo page a while back.  Here it is:
http://www.williamweber.com/HumanZoo.html
--K 

Excellent site, and what a walk down memory lane.  Glad to see so many of you are still among the living and sad to see too many have gone before their time.  Bentley, I can attribute many a good memory to being in company with you. I have many great stories, but alas, it is time to put my little one to bed. Cheers, Star 

Hiya, Thanks for maintianing this website, it brings back so many great memories. I've posted here a few times looking for old friends but haven't had much luck. Someone actually sent me an e-mail a while back with jerry wells' phone number but unfortunately I moved and now I can't find it so if anyone has it, feel free to get it to me via e-mail. Also, if anyone has any info on Brendan Morriseys' whereabouts, I'd love to get into contact with him. Thanks!  Tara Flynn (ne:wood) tflynn6@cinci.rr.com 

Hey JC'ers! If you've got any ideas on what you might like on a Jockey Club Shoppe shirt or mug or sticker or whatever, let me know by email (tim@gigocorp.com) and I can customize any of the items that are on Cafe Press. And the more you buy the more money there is for getting Bryce some free JC swag, since he deserves at least that for keeping the JC flame burning! Tim, aka Bill Igerent 

hey folks check what tim from musical suicide has come up with, JC schwag for us, buy it all and send him to space camp http://www.cafepress.com/thejockeyclub 

Hello Sirs:  I remember the spring of 1985 and the Ramones and Suicidal Tendencies show was sold out.  Man, did we really want to see that show!  We had a one ticket.  A friend, a talented artist he was, used tracing paper and he traced the front of the ticket and even the stamp on the back.  The stamp was a little guy named Boris.  We found similar paper that the ticket was printed on in 3 foot rolls at a local art shop.  After cutting the paper to size, we made 9 fake tickets on copiers at Kinkos.  Unfortunately, I didn’t get the other half of my torn ticket from the door man (I was glad that I just got in!).  That was the best show I ever saw at the Jockey Club.  Cheers! 

Hey Everyone - I was hoping to touch base with anyone from the Columbus scene - Any of the guys from Painful Discharge, Human Sufferage, Kathy Bloom, Buffy, the Crazy mama's Crowd Etc.   If anyone has any leads let me know. asantelli@mac.com 

Glad to see the sites still up and running. I've got a cool idea for a book and video thing for all of us JC folks. Email me if you're interested. I have a publisher already lined up and anyone who contributes photos, etc. will get the package free. Anyway, email me.  Jake 

Bryce, thank you so very much for creating and maintaining this site. I, like so many others, frequented the JC and fortunately performed there on occasion. The posts have me alternately laughing, crying, screaming and sighing. I didn't see many national acts, only Chas Chasborne comes to mind, but was at a whole bunch of SS-20 jobs. Jughead was always the most likable chap to talk with. My 'Jockey Play' included The Barking Spiders and Boo Boo Ray but I don't remember a JC job when I was in Dennis the Menace. Must be my psychoactive medication. Nonetheless, was always a hoot to go there. What a scene!.....Tim Ray 

I am almost 40 now, and I can’t believe so much water has gone under the bridge since the days of the Jockey Club. I was dragged there kicking and screaming by some very close friends of mine. I didn’t want to hear the rage and the volume and the angst. I was more a classic rock kind of guy and was starting to get into the REM and Athens Georgia sound.  Once I was there for awhile however I discovered what fun it all was.  To see my friend Pete stage diving at an SS 20 show was priceless and I even moshed around a bit myself.  What fun! I had the honor of being at three shows in 1986 or 87 and being old enough to drink it was a great! In those days all of my best friends were musicians and were part of local Cinci bands of the day. They are the ones that introduced me to the music. It is interesting to note that last summer, I took my 14 year old daughter to the Warped Tour. There were the Vandals playing a set, and I noted that they also played the Jockey once upon a time.  She listens to me and some of my old buddies talk about the club, she thinks we are the coolest adult authority figures because we can tell stories about Shorty , the club and the music, oh and the bathrooms! Ewwww. I once saw a young couple copulating in the hallway under a blanket, I got good and high once with a total stranger before entering the club on another occasion. Once I talked to Shorty between sets, just trying to wrap my head around an old man and this scene exploding all around me. He was cool, in a very gruff sort of way. I got the impression immediately that he wasn’t going to take any shit. I respected him. I found this site last year and tonight was just reminiscing about the old days. I have since become a professional Internet consultant and part time musician myself. I would like to offer any assistance you may need on this site, just in honor of the memories.  I can host, I can build I can do anything you may desire for a website. Gratis of course since it would be my way of remembering a great time, when youth and music and booze came together in a very special way.   Thanks   Phresh~ 

Bryce, great site... just want to correct Witt on his hideous spelling: that's Mark Mojdehi, who was in NEGRO... an un-PC name to be sure but not That un-PC! The curious are invited to see what Witt's up to these days this friday at the Mockbee, 2260 Central Parkway, Cinti. 10pm or so. I believe he's playing with Divine Pile, yeah mostly teenagers, so he hasn't changed much on that score... On old J.C. recordings, I've got a copy of the Hospital recs. show back in early '82, w/ BPA, 11,ooo Switches, Lopez Sophisticates. This would've been one of the 1st J.C. underground shows, according to the history. Uncle Dave would
have the master of this, if it still plays! This should see the light of day (beyond me occasionally playing it on the Damage)
cheers, Ron    http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ArtDamage 

what im looking for is some the old punk band ss20 songs on tape are cd ok thanx if can help cool rock crazzy dave hear in tx 

wow! wit! you're still alive! if you could, please go into more depth about what you're doing these days! the last time that I was even privy to your hoo-doo was when I was hanging out with Kelly/Lorraine/Martha (she of many names) and you guys were doing this (very) pseudo Velvets thing with you hacking away at a violin ala John Cale in your basement while the rest of the homies in your crib were gazing at you all slack jawed and intent like you wuz JC (or Charlie M.) returned! Super duper fun! I
remember the Richard Kern film flickering on the upstairs T.V. while some barely post-pubescent female was passed out on the living room floor...oh the glory of narcotics! so what gives? who floats your proverbial boat these days? take it greasy, chris 

Witt!! I am surprised to find you looking for me. Glad to hear you are well. I check the JC guestbook a few times a week. I love when old friends pop up! I am with Matt Becher wondering about Steve Hull. Last I heard, he was in the military; very worrisome in this day and age. I love Wendy Darst and she was doing great last time I wrote her. I found pictures on-line and she looks great too!! I knew about Joetta and the fire. I sent Maniac Mike a copy of it from the paper. I had just left for Seattle when Myra was buried. It saddened me greatly to have to miss it. I loved Myra very much. Being broke, I couldn't be there. I still keep in touch with Tammy when I get off my ass and write. I am a bad penpal. I don't write enough. I will try to remedy that. I love getting e-mail. Living so far from Cincy, I don't get much news. Anything new? So what is up? I can be reached at the above e-mail address. Lots of the old addresses for me on this guestbook no longer work. I have 4 that work now and the above I check the most. So what is up?  Later, Amy Miller 

WELL F-ME RUNNING IF I DIDN'T ASK  DOUG WHAT YOUR E-MAIL ADD WUZ AND HE TOLD ME TO TYPE IN YOUR OLD JOCKY CLUB MONIKER,SO I TYPED IN TOTTY VICE ADA AMY MILLER AND WALLA! UP POPS THE JOCKY CLUB SITE WITH YOUR ENTRY RIGHT AT THE TOP.AND AS I CRUISED THRU THE ENTRY'S I GOT WENDY'S E-NO TOO...WELL I SAW THAT A FEW PEOPLE WERE WONDERING  WHAT EVER HAPPENED TO JOETTA,,,LEAVE IT TO YOUR DEAR UNCLE WITTY TA FILL YA ALL IN.SHE WAS LIVING ON THE NORTH SIDE FOR JUST ABOUT EVER IN JOETTA YEARS IN A NICE DEAD END STREET WHITE TRASH NEABORHOOD NEXT TO THE FREEWAY,SHE HAD THE WHOLE TOP OF A HOUSE WHICH WAS REALLY COOL FIXED UP IN THAT VOODOO WAY ONLY SHE CAN DO,EVERY SQUARE IN FILLED WITH BIZZAR EYE CANDY+CATS.OVER THE YEARS I SPENT MANY OF LICORE SLICKED HOLLADAYS OVER THERE+DID A FEW VIDEOS. WELL ANY WAY LAST YEAR I HEARD(DOUG TOLD ME) THAT A FIRE STARTED AND BURNED DOWN THE PLACE(CANDELS?) SHE GOT OUT BUT HER MAN FRIEND DIDN'T AND SINCE THEN I HAVEN'T HEARD ANYTHING BUT I COULD FIND OUT-IM SURE SHES DOING WELL BECAUSE SURGER DADDY'S SEEM TO PAVE THE STREETS WHERE EVER SHE WALKS. AS FOR ME IM KINDA THE ELDER SPOKSPERSON FOR NOISE MUSIC...IT KINDA SUCKS BECAUSE THESE NEW LIL FUCKERS WERNT EVEN BORN UNTILL ABOUT 1983,,BESIDES CATCHIN UP WITH YOU AMY ON THE SCHIZNITSIN YOUR HOOD THE LAST TIME I SAW YOUR SISTER WAS AT MYRAS FUNERAL/ WHICH I VIDEOED/ALSO SAW SPEWFORD T JIZZUM(LORAIN) AND AUSTRID AND FRIENDS...ANY WAY TO WENDY DARST.. I HEARD MARK MOSDAHEE HAS A BAND CALLED NIGGER AND IT SO LOAD THAT HE CLEARS OUT AN  AUDIENCE IN A NEW YORK SEC.+IM HAPPY TO HEAR THAT YOUR STILL DOING MUSIC AND P.S. I STILL THINK THAT  YELLOW EYED HEATHER PRESCOTT IS A BITCH.. 

Does anyone have a clue where Steve Hull has gotten to?  I know he was trying to track me down through this site a couple of years ago but I didn't realize it then.  He could be anywhere in the world.  Thanks, Matt Becher 

That Metallica story was in my last post—how sad. It must be the only thing I remember. Also repeated is the “where is Joetta?” To add—Greg Cull, you were a great roommate (you all were, from MacMillan house and everywhere!) and I hope you are well, where ever you are. Bill Weber—2 nights ago I was searching a local jukebox for “Hair of the Dog” to bang an ashtray to (the Plaza was fine in the afternoon with plenty of free beer). Enough! Thank you webmaster for all your work…
Wendy Darst  Wendyd83@hotmail.com 

So nice to see this site is still up! One addition to the Metallica at the Ramones show thread—this often seems to come up in my life as the easiest nutshell explanation of those days…Becky Boyd and I were standing between the bathrooms with our oilcans as that Ramones show let out. We had a small dry spot in the lake of overflowed man toilet that always happened when the place packed out, and we were just watching the hundreds of people go by. We eventually realized that this small group of guys standing in the sewage was indeed Metallica, as opposed to, say, guys that looked like Metallica. We discussed telling them that maybe they didn’t want to stand in that water, but didn’t get around to actually saying anything. I can see it clear as day. They looked quite forlorn. Also, note to Trendy Wendy—that’s sweet Joetta and I were your heroes. I hope it served you well having us as role models—it’s a frightening thought.  Joetta—where the hell are you? I haven’t heard from you since the last spate of late night phone calls in the mid 90s or so—what is up?!? And anyone else—it’s always good to hear from you. I now play an electrified shovel called the Handbarrow, and vocalize. Will be doing the jugband competition up here (Mpls) next week with “Goober Sez Hey,” but I generally perform under my own name or In the Valley Of the Shadow of the Handbarrow. I build giant things out of paper mache and explode them on my head, strip to children’s and Spike Jones 78s, whatever catches my fancy. We will be recording with our core group of viola, kickdrum, guitar, and
handbarrow soon. Keep in touch everyone!  Wendy Darst  Wendyd83@yahoo 

I'm doing a book called Going Underground: American Punk 1979-1992, which is focusing more on the Midwest and out of the way scenes than most any books have to date, and of course the Jockey Club is an essential part of that lore. I was wondering who took the Husker Du photos, because I need some shots of them, and would also like permission from you to quote some of the history of the place that you've written on the site. I interviewed Victor from the Edge a few weeks ago, and that opened the door to learning all about the cool scene you folks had there. I thought it really funny one of the emails about Charlie Pickett and the Eggs lighting the Skynyrd plane on fire. I grew up in South Florida, so Charlie Pickett was one of the first bands I saw, opening for the Gun Club, in 1982 or 83. Unfortunately I'm discovering all this just before I wrap up my book to send to the printer, but any help you could give me in the next couple of weeks would be great. 

Just recently came across your site.....AWESOME!! The shot of the back wall of the JC with all the graffitii on it particuarly the spraypainted "unsocial disease" LOGO.  That was my band (i was the drummer).  I don't recall painting that, maybe one of my band members did it, maybe I was drunk at the time which was probably the case.  Anyway, we (Tommy, Thomas, Carl, and Kevin) were from Lexington, and frequently made trips to the JC. Although unfortunatly "unsocial disease" never played at the club, we sure had some good times there!! thanks for the memories!!!, Tommy 

Hello folks- I'm in Cincinnati for Christmas, freezing my Cuban ass off and digging out of ice and snow, while back home in Miami it's 73 degrees- brrr! After 3 months of collecting, archiving, and baking tapes from reel to reels, cassettes, and videos, I've finally managed to put together the material for the European CD compilation of The Edge. All total, there are 34 songs, including 2 recorded live at the Jockey Club, plus 8 videos, 4 of those from the JC. Now that those have been transferred to the digital domain, I'm sending them off to Europe for mastering. The final phase will be putting together photos and liner notes for the insert, so if anyone has any photos stashed away that they want to submit, contact me soon! Now that this project is wrapping up, I'm finishing recording with my new band, Last Gang In Town. Last week, Mikey Dread who produced "Bankrobber" and much of "Sandinista" for The Clash, was in the studio with us, mixing tapes for a dub/reggae tune I wrote called "Gone Astray". Hope to have mp3s of it up soon on our site: http://lastgang.com Got a call from Dan Reed not long ago- he asked me to play in a Chem Dyne reunion show, tentatively set for March, 2005 in Hamilton, Ohio. While culling through The Edge tapes, I found some live recordings I made when I played with Chem Dyne at the Jockey Club, and those are excellent quality- will have to transfer them to CD soon. Thanx, Victor Garcia-Rivera 

I never had the chance to see a show at the Jockey club. so I am looking to add some piece of Newport/ Punk history to my walls.  IF any one has ORIGINAL POSTERS, HANDBILLS  or TICKETS  with JOCKEY CLUB listed on them. PLEASE email me!!  with info and prices  MoviestarMARK@aol.com   I also knew a guy named "DENNIS"  he is pictured on SNAPS Page 6. I think, his name is listed as SHANNON Z. Does anyone know him , Remember him or know what has happened to him??  Thanks all for your time and Help!!!  Mark Milner 

Looking for Lou Miami and the Kozmetix...................." To sir with love" 

Greetings from SS-20. Sorry to hear about Construction Clown. The site looks good. A boatload of memories flood back. For anyone interested you can download our new record at :  http://ss20.net:78/  I plan to read all the new postings and will visit all the links . Thanks Bryce for all your good works!  Jughead    PS. I would love to hear from any and all old friends. 

What if somebody was to make a Jockey Club Tribute Album, you know, for like charity or somethin', featuring bands of today playing songs of all the bands that called the JC home base. Sure, it's a pipe dream but it's fun to think about. So, what bands would play what songs? Let's start a Virtual Fantasy JC Tribute Album!!  My first vote would be to have Los Straitjackets play a cover of Musical Suicide's Freak Show. That was our only instrumental and Jakki on bass was killer! We never got it recorded so the bass came through so I'd love to see it resurrected and given a chance at the big time! Anybody else have any ideas?   Bill Igerent 

metallica was at the ramones show in 85. i believe the year is right.my buddy pat patton and i were about the last ones to leave
when pat said,"hey look,it's metallica".i was like,oh yeah,right pat.sure enough,it was.we had a good conversation with them for about 10 minutes.they were touring with ozzy that year on the master of puppets tour.i was lucky enough to meet cliff burton. he was killed shortly after that.i saw the uk subs @ sudsys.looking and sounding oooolllllllllldddddddd.......so ya workin now pat?   see ya, jeff westerkamp 

*Subject:  Jockey Club
Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2004 10:58:46 -0500
From: Bryna

Here is the text of the obituary from The Cincinnati Post if anyone's interested:

Raymond Thunder-Sky, artist

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He wore a hard hat and any number of outlandish clown outfits, usually with ruffled Elizabethan collars. He carried Magic Markers and drawing paper in a tool box and frequented construction sites.
Few knew Raymond Thunder-Sky's name, but he was a familiar figure around town for three decades. He was a shy, quiet, rotund man who, without ever intending it, became a Cincinnati icon.

Raymond Thunder-Sky died Thursday at his home, a resident home operated by the Catholic Care Corporation. He was 54.

His father was Richard Brightfire Thunder-Sky, the last full-blooded chief of the Mohawks. His mother was Irene Salatsky, the daughter of a Hungarian nobleman with ties to the Hapsburgs of Europe.

Although he never was formally diagnosed, his caregivers believed he had something akin to autism. This made it difficult for him to communicate verbally, but he made up for it by communicating through his artwork. And his themes were always tied to the never-ending cycle of demolition and construction.

Wherever the Cincinnati skyline was changing, Raymond would be there, drawing the scene in electric colors, creating the world the way he thought it should be, replacing ordinary buildings with Clown Suit factories, Card Trick manufacturing facilities and Native American freeways.

His ability as an artist was discovered only a few years ago, when a couple of caseworkers with the boards of mental retardation and developmental disability for Hamilton and Butler counties launched a program called "Art Thing," which later evolved into "Visionaries and Voices." The idea was to showcase the art some of their clients were creating. Raymond was one of the first Art Thing artists. In the first Art Thing exhibit in Over-the-Rhine in 2001, he sold four drawings for $100 each. His work later was exhibited in San Francisco, New York and Washington, D.C.

He is survived by a brother, Michael. Services: 11 a.m. Thursday, Arlington Memorial Gardens. Other arrangements pending. Neidhard-Gillen Funeral Home, Mt. Healthy, is handling arrangements.
 

Publication Date: 10-30-2004

It saddens me to report that Raymond Thunder-Sky (aka Construction Clown) has died. According to the obituary in today's (11/2) Enquirer, he'd been in a prolonged battle with cancer. Unforunately the obituary isn't online, but it's worth picking up an Enquirer to check it out - what an amazing character.  Scott Bruno * 

Hey, it's me again, just wanted to let anyone who gives a fuck know that we survived Ivan. That was the first and hopefully the
last hurricane I'll go through. We live close to the water and are house was the hardest hit in the neighborhood. Luckily we
rent! We fled to Memphis, when we got back our living room ceiling was caved in, the carpet was saturated and the back yard fence was gone. I've never seen anything like it. Luckily we still have a roof and windows. It's been so crazy here. We were
without power for about five days, a lot of people were without longer. We had hot water, thanks to good OLE natural gas.
Still can't drink the stuff. Our neighbor ran us a line from his generator and thanks to Direct TV we were able to enjoy football
that Sunday (GO VIKINGS) Sorry! Red cross was out driving around giving out hot meals everyday twice a day for about
three weeks. We ate quite a few MRE(meals already made?) They are pretty good, and really cool. It's still a mess here,
mostly trees. We live over by Perdido, the hardest hit. It's still not open and down the street twelve people in a subdivision
died. I'm so Thankful, that we got out and had a home to come back to. I'm even more thankful that were transferring to
Lemoore! I tell you, going through this reconfirmed that I'm not a whiner. We were sweating our asses off, cleaning up debris
and then not having a cool house to come into sucked. But, it was better than being dead. I can't believe how many whiny ass
people there are, bitching about not having power and material things, please. And these were people that have a home.
Opened my eyes. Enough,I just wanted to let people know what happened. If anyone wants to know more or has any
questions, shoot me an E-mail. It still looks like a war zone around here. Until next time. Tammy 

Hi, I wanted to respond to hanging out at Daryl's. If I remember correctly it was above Rent a Record. Wondering if anyone
knows what happened to Daryl. He was my bud. Also a question, I could swear I read, or heard that Metallica, dropped by The Jockey one night. Can't believe me the goddess of metal missed that one. I need details, my husband and I landed back stage passes for their upcoming show, here in Pensacola.  Also, were moving to Lemoore, Ca in November. It's closest to Fresno. Is anything happening there, besides gangs? I'm so out of the mix. Hey, Snare, if you read this E-mail me with your number, I've lost it. Hard-core to the end  Tammy(Z) 

hey get this, it's been about 5 years since the jockey club remembered hit the web. I am thinking about putting on a 5 year anniversary show just kidding. Due to haziness I will never exactly know the debut date or the number of hits, and rightly so cuz who fuckin cares! But by my incalculable calculations I figure we're five. Kip's first guestlist entry is May of 2000 and I remember having the site up for a long time before I got hi-tech enough to have a guestlist. I'm glad a lot of you crazy kids have hooked back up. I hardly knew any of ya! I'm still waiting for a few friends to chime in. I sure had a few good times down there but alot of you had way better times it's easy to tell. Newport sure has changed but we will never forget when it was just plain ol nasty 

No No No Tara. I am not talking about Jerry. Jerry lives in Northgate and is still smoking lots of ciggs and playing guitar. I
would never call Jerry Burn out. He was and still is a good friend....I'm talkin' about Burn Out. A short tennage drunken kid
with a mohawk that we all called Burn Out. He was always hung out in Darryls space above the bookstore. I don't think Jerry
ever let him in his area....See Ya 

Hey all! I'm seeing lot's of names that I remember...I posted here some time ago and never got any responses. Bently! I remember you, I hung out at the main st. apartment above Aquarious and I have pics from back then, with you in them...Also, to "Joe Assclown" regarding "burnout" are you talking about Jerry Wells? He was a great friend of mine and I don't know what ever happened to him either. If anyone knows, let a gal know, eh? If anyone remembers me, contact me, it would be great to hear from old friends. I went by Tara Wood back then, a skinny little girl with a mohawk, ring any bells?  I have a bunch of old flyers from the J.C., a list of people I'd love to hear from, and lots of great memories. Brian Falls, I remember you!
tflynn6@cinci.rr.com 

greetings punks and punkettes! i'm a long time reader and a first time writer to this site!!! hey, a while back somebody was asking about old c.d.s, pictures, artifacts, tapes, 8 tracks, plaster casts, posters, etc. by a band called "the edge". who were these guys? i spent most of my 'formative' years at the j.c. and have no recollection of them. maybe it was all of the fosters i drank and clove cigarettes i smoked but i remember most of the great local bands like "perfect jewish couple", "major morgan and the waste baskets", and "ZZ-20" to name a few. "the edge" must have really been something if, twenty years after the fact, a major label is trying to do a retrospective on them with cd-rom, dvd and all that stuff. if anyone knows where i can buy their CDs, albums, posters, or even a biography or history of the group (authorized only, please!) let me know because i've been to
seven record stores in town and nobody has ever heard of them. thanks a million and keep on rockin', all you punkers! david heinkamp 

Hey - Just wondered if anyone would be interested in owning a table and set of 4 chairs that once sat in the Jockey Club.  I have enough other memorabilia from the JC and I don't really have enough space for this anymore.  The chairs are in okay condition but the table needs some work and can probably be restored (the top is peeling up).  If you can haul them away from my house, you can have them for free.  If interested, email Pat Patton at ppatton1@cinci.rr.com and I will give you more detailed information. 

Everyone knows grass is a "gateway" drug, Neil. Cops are our friends and sometimes friends can be little harsh... 

I was in Washington, DC two weeks ago. I was in front of the White House grounds in a small grassy area that had a fountain on it. I walked on the grass to see who the fountain was named for. A federal cop of some kind on a bike rode by and told me to get off the grass. His tone was shitty. He did it just because he could. Asshole.  Neil Aquino. Houston, Texas naa618@aol.com 

Howdy JC cyber denizens- a label in Europe has contacted me about releasing a CD retrospective of The Edge. This will be a CD Rom with audio and video and will include photos as well as audio and video. While I have a lot of material stored away, there are some holes I would like to fill, either stuff I don't have, or for which I'd like a first generation copy- let me know if you can help out with any of the following: 1] Recording of The Edge live on WAIF-FM on Michel Reilly's show on September, 1983- John McCarthy has a reel to reel tape of this, but I don't know if he's still around- anyone with info on John [he used to manage The Edge and NK Spies, Steve Killian's band before he joined Snare & The Idiots] let me know 2] Video of the Edge at the Jockey Club April 1985- I have a VHS tape of this but Mick Edd had the original- I think I saw a post by Mick somewhere here but Mick if you're reading and have the original copy let me know 3] Steve Stenken and the rest of the video
crew from Latonia who filmed our video for MTV- I have the master finished video, but would like to get the original copies of the Bogarts show we played with the Dead Milkmen, that was used for most of the footage- my copy on VHS has slightly deteriorated.  The original would be nice to use instead! 3] a copy of the video that Flipside Magazine took of the Edge at our show in Los Angeles in 1985 where we played with Conflict, No FX and Government Issue- I was promised a copy of this and never got it, I know this wasn't filmed in Cincy but if any punk collectors have come across this on the net and have a copy, let me know 4] a video of The Edge when we opened for Dead Kennedys in Syracuse, New York on April, 1985- once again, not in Cincy but if someone has a copy let me know- I'm sure this show [at least the DK portion] has circulated somewhere 5] a copy of the "Alternative Allston" video filmed in LA- done by a cable show with ties to Flipside, I never got a copy but I've had letters from people in California who saw it on TV. I'm going to be including several live recordings of The Edge from the Jockey Club, if anyone has any they'd like to contribute, let me know, I may not have them. Also would be nice to have more photos, let me know what you have- my email is roquero@aol.com Gracias to anyone that can help out- Victor Garcia-Rivera, http://members.aol.com/lastgangintown 

Hi Ben!! Yes, Agent Orange did play the JC. They put up these noise warning notices. Plus the guitar player did stupid human
tricks for me and Tammy. Sounds like it will be a good show. If you ever get to Seattle, stop by and say hi! Later, Amy Miller 

I have a brand new double album never played in a white album cover, says Blackflag live at the Jockey Club Newport, KY
1986. 

Just Checking in...good to that this site is still going.. Hi Amy. I don't remember if Agent Orange ever played at the JC or not. but I am going to see them tonight at Squid Joe's In Carlsbad CA. they are doing a show for a friends of mine reopening of his surf shop http://www.realsurfshop.com/images/opening.jpg  if there are any old JC punks in the area come check it out..
These cute kittens remind me of the Jockey Club for some reason  http://www.rathergood.com/lightsabre/  see ya, Shred Rat. 

Linda sent us a cool slideshow, prepare to timewarp:  Bill Grapes Jockey Club Halloween 1986 Modern Vending Little Pat Sheila B Pods Kansas City  Sudsy's  Highwaymen   http://f2.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/long_heping/album?.dir=/5954 

Hi Bryce, I bumped into Dee Snyder last night at the Velvet Lounge here in D.C., and she alerted me to your Jockey Club Web site. Needless to say, I have wasted nearly an hour of my employer's time surfing this great trip down Memory Lane. I promise to go through my photo/flier collection and email you whatever I have. Keep up the great work.  Linda B 

In reply to Stephen Wetzel's message right before this one, Minor Threat played the Jockey on Monday, MAY 2nd, 1983. Malignant Growth from Louisville opened. Just wanted to mention the correct date, no big thang.....I'm sure the world will keep turning. 

Love the site. The summer of 85 and 86 changed my life....god the memories. Just wanted you to know that Minor Threat couldn't have played the JC on April 2, 1983. They were in Rollerworks CA. Video of performance can be bought here
http://www.geocities.com/robsmisfitsvideos/VIDEOS.html Here's a page with a copy of the flyer from that date
http://home.earthlink.net/~laaccess/flyer3.html And Threatbase http://mosher.mine.nu/threatbase/ (the complete database of all things Minor Threat) repeats that they think this is a mistake. 

Hey Bryce!  Manwich played on a the bill with 63 Eyes on 2/11/87  I think the date (8/29/87) on the Wolverton Brothers / Human Zoo / BPA / Manwich show is wrong.  If memory serves, Manwich broke up earlier in the month of August (after we played the Southgate House with Big Black). I have a video of Manwich at the Jockey w/ Human Zoo and the Wolvertons.  I believe it is from sometime in '86 (because of our line-up).  Just lettin' ya know.  Thanks, AAAAAaaccccceeeeeeee! check it out:  http://www.williamweber.com 

The Jockey Club might not exist at 633 York St. anymore, but we're still a club that meets in cyberspace. Maybe that's the next phase of all this. We might not have a big show to gear up for tonight, but we can still go see D.O.A. on May 16th at Sudsy's. We can still be a club without a building. The shows were what brought us together, but it must have been more than that to have kept us communicating after all these years. Just a thought.    Snare 

I stumbled on your Jockey Club site yesterday while I was trying to act like I was working. It brought back so many memories. Is there a problem with the "Snaps" pages? I can't get any of the images to load on my machine. It's agonizing to be so close yet so far from them!  Thanks, Jay Lakes 

Hey Bryce!  I never had the privilege of hanging out the Jockey Club, as I was a late-bloomer when came to the Cincinnati Music Scene. ( I came on the scene at Sudsy’s in 1991.)  However, I am friends with many who did party there, I love the site & hearing everyone’s memories.  I happened to be downloading some music the other night and I happened to do a random search for the “jockey club”.  Assuming I would find nothing I was amazed to come across Raw Power live from the Jockey Club.  Looking at the calendar on the web page  I’m sure it is our beloved Jockey Club”, although the date I have is 6-9-1984.  How about that!  Freaky, hunh?  I downloaded the whole show.  I’m listening to it right now.  Let me know if you would like to check it out or if you want to have any of it to post on the website.  Karyn 

Is that you Clem? If not, who is it? This is Zyg, and I'm in Germany. I found the JC site accidentally while searching for Dee Snyder, the short redhead who was the drummer for, among others, the Chytes, for which I am equally guilty. If this is the same Dee, would you happen to have any contact info? I'd just like to say hi (from 5000 miles away).  Cheers, zyg 

Do you guys know anybody that has a copy of the Circle Jerks, Black Flag , SS-20 , or Dead Kennedy's, or  Husker DU, all of which I attended back then (under age of course) thanks to my BMX pro buddies Donnie Reeves and Jeff Westerkamp. please reply Thanks Loads, Ryan Schmidt care of S&M American Cycle Service, home of the old school punk choppers....... 

I just wanna thank Juggie for all the pot, the Fosters and all the politics I could swallow, Rob you are still the man will come and see SS-20 any whaere any Time, last show was still awesome at Sudsy's the Reduced kicked ass as usual when is the next coming of any of the late great Jockey Club Bands......??????? Ryan of S&M American Cycle service . Any concert info would be great and if you want to try out a great local band try out Ampline,  or Covington, e-mail me for more info..... 

Hello! Man this makes me feel old! I was the drummer in 30 Pieces... We had the opportunity to play there twice if I
remember correctly... Once, was with the Speed Hickeys (??). And the other was the Jockey Club Final weekend bash! We played with Dag Nasty I believe. My memory is very foggy from that time period.. (must be the drugs) Anyway, I remember
the smell, the look, almost getting busted out back for smoking..... That final weekend show held a particular memory for
me, and our bass player Dave. We had driven back to my apartment to get my wallet that I left behind. We got there in just enough time to find my girlfriend pulling outta the driveway with some guy! Whoa! What a surprise! To make a long story short. Instead of beating the crap outta this guy, which was my first instinct. I wrote her off, and played THE MOST AGGRESSIVE show I had ever played. I put serious dents in my snare head from that night! I still have a recording of that show. If anybody remembers us, I'd be glad to make em a copy...  Thanx for the memories!  Bill, Dave, Joby, you guys helped me from getting arrested that night!  -Jay 

duh...i meant go to the jockey club remembered homepage, or INTRO for the other new pics, not SNAPS 1, Ok? But while I have you here, I getsa lotsa SPAM, people. I'm a deletin' fool! So if you wanna get a posting in here, and not risk me accidently dumping it, MAKE SURE THE SUBJECT OF THE EMAIL IS JOCKEY CLUB, that would help immensly, thanks. Just got 'em in the mail, Peter Aaron sent me a box of CLEAR Doc and The Pods flexis, or soundsheets, as they were once called, that we recorded in 1985. This stack has been lost until now. One is yours if you send me a buck, just the price of postage really. That's a deal. We absolutely rocked on this, the band was totally, totally peaking. Um, I'm assuming here, that a few of us are still spinning vinyl??? Well, if you're not you should be. over and out.  m o d e r a t o r 

I AM FROM BRAZIL AND I HAVE A LOT OF INTEREST IN KNOWING THE LIST OF BANDS IT IS MATERIAL AVAILABLE IN CD/K7 FOR CHANGE OR SALE. I CAN WIDE MATERIAL OF BANDAS PUNKS OF BRAZIL AND OF THE EXTERIOR.  I AWAIT YOUR CONTACT.  CONGRATULATIONS FOR SITE " JOCKEY CLUB "
THANX 

I updated some stuff. Thanks to Dee Snyder and unnamed source "FX" for the latest photos. See SNAPS 1 and SNAPS 11.
Just heard the bassist for Dead Milkmen is now dead, a suicide. Heard from Peter Aaron wegele the other day, and thought I
may have seen Bill Leist at The Zombies concert in Lexington on Valentines Day. Ah, but I may have hallucinated. Long
lost JC folks keep on dropping by with a kind word or two, we done been googled! See the guestbook page 2 for who is
crawling out from under punk rocks, ah shit if you're reading this, well then you are already here, me dumbass. With some alleged friends I am working on a wonderful Dickies tribute album. I have a new CD called THAT MAN BRYCE, on which Jim Cole (Auburnaires/Cole Brothers) guest stars and the Maladroits sax man also appears! Speaking of Auburnaires, Ho-Ho may release a BEST OF and/or NEW LIVE from the Jockey Club 20th reunion show. The silly Maladroits are ramping up for some new shows, come out and see us if you can! And keep on rockin! --Bryce 

Just wanted to say thanks for walk down memory lane. I was the drummer for MALIGNANT GROWTH back in the day and all my favorite shows were at the Jockey and its great to see alot of other people feel the same way. For the past 20 years I have been telling people in Boston about the club and like so many other people have said, if you didn't see it you wouldn't understand. I just moved to PA. I was up in Boston for a Bags reunion show and I ran into Yukki of the Repellents and he told me about the site but I didn't think it would be this big. I noticed a message from Irv on page one, good to see your still around. Does anyone know what happened to Mark Abromavage, would love hear from him or any of the other Louisville fucks that were around when things were happening, we had some good times. I miss those Fosters                   Todd(SID)Fuller    Please post on page 2     Thanks for the memories 

I can't believe someone else remembers that! I'm responding to a message from Tammy a year ago. I regret admitting that I've neglected this sight for quite awhile. Anyway, I was kidnapped by Broken Bones. I was hugging them goodbye and they
closed the van door and drove off to their motel. Their cockney accents were so thick I couldn't understand a word they said. They didn't do anything to me except laugh at me and steal the tiny amount of weed and a bottle of RUSH that I had in my
purse. HA HA! Remember that stuff? It was like sniffing glue. Jesus, what the hell? I also remember countless after hours parties of Amy's. I, with many others, was skinny dipping with Wadi from Exploited on the night the pool turned purple.
I also remember a party (I was tripping at the time) where there was a shaving cream fight and someone's head got lit on fire. Let me tell you, at the time, that was somethin to see. I'll never forget it, like so many other FANTASTIC times. And yes, I
do love telling the stories, over and over and over, to everyone I know (and don't know) to this day! Love Always, Allegra 

Hello.  This is Bentley -- the very short woman who had a tall mohawk. In 85-86ish I went to the JC too regularly and am busy reminiscing.  I remember many of the shows -- still have the Angry Red Planet tee I traded for my flannel.  I think a dozen of us were there that night.  Honestly, I remember the people a hell of a lot more than the bands.   Anyway, would love to hear from those who remember me.  --Bentley 

Hey ya Bryce! I was sitting and listening to the quiet of the early morning, here in Norwood, and I thought of the club, as I had to check email any way I thought I would do a lil ol search, lo and behold, I found your page. I must first say that I am impressed with the effort put forth by you on the page. Very well done! That spot was indeed a magical time and place for so many of us. I guess at that this point you are wondering who I am........ My name is Mic Bechtel AKA Mic Edd, I shot tape of your band at the club and you came over to my apt to get a copy,,,,,,,,, remember? I walked the floor of the club as a bouncer. I reckon you remember. I just wanted to say hi, and open a channel of communications with you. I will dig up all the old photos I can find as well as the old videos.  Yours in music,  Mic 

Hey, just wanted to say hi! I heard from Snare, there was trouble with the web site, glad to see it's okay now. I've been finding more and more sixteen years olds, and up, here in Pensacola that are in to punk. And they thought it was dead. I'm trying to turn them on to some of the old school. It warms my heart to know us freaks are still out there. Chat more later. Long live the freaks.   Tammy Z 

Hi, Do you have any video footage of the Damned to trade please. Regards, Craig. 

from tom weast    i think i have a tape floating around somewhere from one of their appearances at the jc. my brother pete played the drums with r+B surround-sound. 

Just spent 3 hours walking down memory lane here. Ill still to this day never forget the show black flag deliverd. henry rollins grinding his sweaty body against a local white trash patron. Im still thankful to this day that the jockey club was there to influence my young curious starving brain with rock and roll and booze.18 years later still doing the same thing in europe. Glad to see that someone in that rotted up river town still keeps the flame burning. Any good punk bands in cincy anymore?? Im still
starving for new music, and work for an indy record distro in germany. maybe I can help the local patriots bring the gold old days to the old country as well. I cant promise anything, but its worth a shot. Thanks again for the great website. P.S.Amy Miller its good to know your still amongst the living. strange rumours running around 10 years ago. P.S. web master If you wanna put up a link from my band please do so, if not I would understand.  Cheers   Paul Smith www.dumbell.de 

from: Tom Weast   Construction Clown aka Raymond Thunder-Sky is one of the artists who is a member in Base Gallery at 1225 Main St in Cincinnati, as well as, Visionaries + Voices Gallery in the Essex Bldg. (also in Cincinnati). He is a genius who does not speak but makes incredible visual art that illustrates police stations and other buildings being torn down and re-built into clown factories. He often has the electrical wiring illustrated in the bldg. or will sometimes draw the plumbing layout along with I-beams. His mother was from a Royal family in Europe and his father was Chief Thundercloud who starred in the 1950's B movies with Roy Rogers. They lived in Hollywood. Raymonds dad died when he was young and his mom, who was blind brought him back to Cinti.to live. His uncle who was in the construction business helped raise him and would take hime to the circus when he was young. He started wearing clown costumes full time in his youth. I believe he is Autistic but it is'nt important, it's what he does on paper. He is the last surviving Mohawk Indian in the country. His lunchbox has art supplies in it and construction workers and clowns are like gods to him. He is really a first class guy who is often misunderstood due to his handicap.His art is currently in several galleries across the country that deal in Outsider Art. He is the stuff legends are made of.  I remember the wide hallway with people sitting on each side and the walls papered with the xeroxed advertisements for bands and peeking into that secret old bar room on the right side as you walked into the club. One night the Violent Femmes helped me park my car in the prking lot (unknowingly that they were the lead act).After I got inside and got a table with my friends, they came in playing-the drummer was playing a marching drum strapped around his neck and waist. Junta was one of the coolest groups, so was Perfect Jewish Couple. We used to go to Dixie Chili afterwards if we were not up to Sylvia's. And then we grew up... 

Hey Bryce,  If you're still keeping track ... www.missionofburma.com has Mission of Burma listed as playing the Jockey Club on 11-16-1982. (MoB show #345) No supporting bands are mentioned.   Semi-nostalgically,   Michael Pennycuff 

What a great site. Stirred up so many ghosts... So many familiar faces... What a great ride... I miss you all... My band played at the Jockey Club warmed up 4 Love & Rockets. Let me know about any reunions... I'm at agent424@hotmail.com. If any of you former Jockey Clubber's need a couch to crash on in Chicago, give me a shout. Shawn Automatic 

I read a story about a punk rock riot that took place in Montreal last week. It seems that Canadian customs agents did not allow The Exploited to enter the country. The Exploited were headed to play a show in Montreal. But they got turned back. Once the concertgoers found out the show was nixed, they erupted in anger. They trashed the venue and turned over cars. Some of the overturned cars were set on fire as well. I should have done something like that when Johnny Thunders got canceled at the JC the first time he was supposed to play. Some of you will recall that night. In retrospect, it seems I took the news way to easy.  Neil Aquino. 

the promised more photos of Johnny Thunders? Great site, anyway.  I have a pretty fuzzy video of JT at the JC. Never got there myself, lived too far away, but nice to time/space travel via cyber space.  Susan 

I am glad Bill Blank posted!! But I wanted to add that Greg Cull was not only a avid scene supporter, musician and artist but, really cute and a great friend! I had some of his art at one time and regret the loss of said art. I haven't seen or heard from him in over a decade and a half. It is a huge loss. He is a great man. As for the JC, I had parties after shows whenever I had a place...and the stories would burn your ears off. So many great parties... and bands would come too. The Exploited turned my pool purple with their hair. My mom kicked out Henry of Black Flag at one party. JFA skated Straight St. and thought I was nifty for mentioning it. 45 Grave gave me and Tammy records and toys the day after a party to thank me. Sam of Fang fame threw beer bottles off the roof at Acropolis Chili at a party I had. Agnostic Front taught me that Colt 45 is a breakfast food.
I had some fun parties. Ahh time passes so quickly. My son is a senior in High School now.  -Amy Miller
http://mywebpages.comcast.net/amiller67/JCReunion.html      http://mywebpages.comcast.net/amiller67/JC.html 

MAN-- I just checked out Amy's slideshows(both). THAT was a serious trip. Way to go, Amy!----Chris Donnelly. 

Anyone remember that guy that used to hang out at 13th and Main above Aquarious Bookstore? Every one called  him "burn
out" ...and with good reason I might add. What was that guy's real name and what the fuck happened to him? For that matter
what the fuck happened to me? P.S Trendy Wendy was the hottest punk rock babe of ALL time. I love you Trendy Wendy. I love you!! 

THANX 4 MENTIONING ALL THE THE BANDS  bryce the whole show was great... a wonderful night... 

HEY ...BOYS N GIRLS...IT`S ROCKIN TIME.. THE SHOW OF THE WEEK IS AT YOUR JOCKEY
CLUB......NEWPORT...KY.HEY IF WE ONLY HAD A TIME MACHINE...WOWEE......AGAIN THANX 2 BRYCE 4 THIS  DEAL... IT`S A BEAUTIFUL THING....REMEMBER N NEVER...FORGET...PART TIME TOILET CLEANER AND UNDERWATER BASKETWEAVER SUPREME....BILLY"BLANK"LEIST...LUV U LIVE........ 

Man--I have not looked at this site for a hell of a long time....I'm so glad it is still up. It's kinda like:"HOW CAN I READ IT ALL?!! NO TIME!" I have actually been paying an e-service out of Little Rock to summarize large portions of this site for me. Every 3 weeks, a three person team flies up here, and with the aid of particle board, humidifiers, and empty Blatz cans, well.., they do their best. BIG props go out to Larry from Midwest sales to really nail the" Gary/Dicks Rock Against Racism" scenario for me. Scary talent, Larry, just scary...Assisted living pays for most of it, and I tip when I can....Well, I gotta go! ---cd. 

so Wendy Darst (who was my hero, she & Joetta) dropped my dreaded nickname trendy wendy. I've been enjoying this
website but laid low not wanting Brendan to start yelling at me again! The reunion was so much fun, I wish we could do it again & again. The music was amazing and the Motorhead shirts stretched tight over 20 years of belly was a sight to behold! e-mail
me :  mailto:wsmdesrochers@yahoo.com 

Guestlist's not dead, Dad, it's just having a little breather, see? New pix were quietly unveiled July 27th. Censoring is so not practiced by the caretakers, all kissin' cussin's is allowed and is in fact encouraged, for the universal adjective is just pretty fuckin' de rigeur, ya know? No, merely barring from access evil assholes is what is now going on, and well, we've never had to employ it 'cept for that one time.....22 May 2002, surely ya'll recall the childish yet devastating attack, some need to look into getting a life, jes like meeeeeeeee hahahahahaha.... I like it bettaire now anyways! Right! So, it's been 20 years since the kings of punk, The Dickies stormed thru the Jockey, and they were just in town again a few days ago and it was as great as always if not way way better, read my eyewitness account at The Dickies Archives:
http://pub14.bravenet.com/forum/fetch.php?usernum=1145075837&msgid=110165&mode=&cp=2 

Is the website Dead? When might we see new pictures? Was it Victor's long epistle that killed the email page? Can the host
tell us why the guest book is CENSORED??? Perhaps if were not CENSORED, there would be more LIFE to it. Anyway, that's what I think. Later 

last night Eli and I were smoking a little and we were checking out the maladroits website and decided to explore more of the hohorecords stuff.  We looked at the jockey club website.  We never knew how cool that place was.  I had no idea that all those great bands had played there.  I used to be into alot of those bands: dead kennedys, exploited, minor threat, black flag.  Never knew how big it was.  I just always heard about it from you.  But!  I just wanted to let you know that I read the whole thing and actually in the past 4 years there has been this place called the void that has been the punk club of cincinnati.  It's definetely more of the jockey club type of thing than the southgate house is.  It used to be on short vine like behind sudsy's and then it moved into northside on hamilton, but it just closed on july 25th.  But the owner guy, Ryan, he is trying to find a new place for it.  I just thought it would be nice to let you know about it because it is kinda the modern day jockey club.  Alot of well known, national acts play there or have played there.  Buckaroo Bandits used to be one of the fav bands for that place.  but anyway... 

It seems somehow appropriate that I don't precisely recall how I found this message board. I didn't make the reunion show as I've made a point to not be entertained for the last....well, let's not dwell on that. My memories of The Jockey Club are the same as my memories of most everything else, acutely unreliable. But I recall The Fall, Fang, DOA, the soon to be late Johnny
Thunders making embarrassing facial expressions, being applauded at the White Castle someone mentioned earlier, the smell of Fosters, the girls bathroom, and the dank. I do so miss that most particular of all danks...thank you for the reminder. 

Looking for any material of Lou Miami and the Kosmetix. I saw that they played  11/83 on your site. Any hope of a tape collecting somewhere. I would be happy to trade or pay for a copy. thanks in advance    lisa 

http://mywebpages.comcast.net/amiller67/JCReunion.html
I had to change the web address for my Jockey Club slideshows... long story. Above is the reunion slideshow link and below is the link to the slideshow of the old days.
http://mywebpages.comcast.net/amiller67/JC.html
The screensaver .zip files do not have music. Screensavers should be quiet.  -Amy Miller 

new pix   http://home.fuse.net/hohorecords/jockeyclub_photos_a.html   see u at the dickies 

For all the times I was at the Jockey Club, I never had a big can of Foster's Lager. This despite that was exactly what all the other kids were doing. My wife is out of town tonight and I figured I would live it up in her absence. I stopped at my local wine/beer shop here in Houston and bought me a big can of Foster's Lager. I'm drinking it right now and watching the Astro's game on cable. Fuck Marty and Joe. I have the Astro's. They don't play in the Astrodome anymore. But I pass the Astrodome on the highway sometimes. I saw it just last week. I'd like to see a Fang/Raw Power/Articles of Faith tripleheader right in the Houston Astrodome. That would kick a whole heap of punk rock ass. I figured I should look at some punk rock Jockey Club pictures while I drank my first Foster's. But now I think it is time to get back to the baseball game.  Thank you. Neil Aquino. 

People here won't remember who I am, but then there are those that will. I made alot of stupid mistakes in my early years that I am not so proud of. I am seeing quite a few names of people to make amends with, most notably Elizibeth Stevens. Most of you will probably not respond, but I thought I would try. I would especially like to hear from elizabeth, as well as Karl, Neil, Billy B, George D, Sir Bill Weber. I miss all of you and this site brought back a great many memories. I am also shocked and amazed that witt lives!!! I have been in San Francisco for about 10 years now and would like to talk to old friends and see how they are doing. Julian, haven't talked to you in like 14yrs. The JC was a part of becoming who I am ( for worst to start and then better). In addition I noticed a post by Ed Pittman, Ed I have been trying to find you for a few years now, Terry Hammer sent me your  phone #, but it is disconnected (wish I could have seen the rerunion show). Please respond, I am truly sorry for what has happened in the past, as I was young, stupid, and highly irresponsible. Time has changed me, as I am sure as it has changed all of you. I miss you all.     Brian Falls 

Victor is right. Greg Cull was very supportive of the local scene back in the day.One time when I was without an apartment
Greg let me crash in his studio a number of times.He also let Snare & The Idiots practice there a time or two. He also did the artwork for our E.P. at no charge.He gave me a "Shorty Shirt." He was always willing to help out and never bitched about it. Greg if you're reading this, I'd like to say hello and thanks.   Snare 

Bryce mentioned Greg Cull. Greg was one of the people who epitomized the independent, do-it-yourself ethic of the 80's punk/ underground scene. You could always count on him to do low cost t-shirts with his Screen Printing business. He even screen printed some album covers for SS-20. He also was the only harmonica player in the local punk scene. He sang and played harmonica with the Boondocks. I think I still have in my archives a reel to reel tape of some sessions I produced for the Boondocks at their space in the "Big Four Building". Too bad I don't have a reel-to-reel player to play them anymore. I remember that one of the recordings we did was a rocking cover of "America" from "West Side Story". Hearing a punk version of "America" was totally mind blowing for me. That was one of the first songs I heard when I came to the United States from Cuba. The lyrics were pretty ironic considering my family had just come to this country: "I like to be in America! Okay by me in America! Everything free in America  For a small fee in America" Along with Matt Becher on bass, "Hardcore"/"Husker" Bob Butler on guitar and Nick from SS20 on drums, the Boondocks were one of the best and most overlooked bands of the JC era. Greg also played harmonica on our recording of "Bumblebee". That was the flipside of the Edge single for "Just An Illusion". Basically, "Bumbleebee" was just meant to be a goofy throwaway for a B-side. I played the guitars, banjo and did the high harmony vocal, while Dan Sokatch played bass and did the lead vocal. There weren't even any drums on the record, and the song only had 2 chords! Once Greg laid his magic harmonica track on top, the song had a hook! It got played a lot on WOXY and made the People's Choice Top Ten Countdown several times in April 1987. I heard it a lot on the radio while I was driving my car. Someone even told me that they heard one of the Clifton cover bands doing a version of my tune. I would have loved to have done some more recordings with Greg, but never got the chance. Another favor Greg did for us was let us practice at his pad. After we got evicted from the Big Four building, we [The Edge}rehearsed at his communal punk rock apartment at 109 W McMillan. The door was always left open there. You never knew who was gonna show up. It was a true punk rock commune. Bands practiced in the basement. Greg had all his screen printing equipment and inks there as well. The last time I saw Greg was when The Edge were getting ready to do our Summer 1987 tour. We were doing a show at the Jockey Club, a few days before we were to depart to Minneapolis, cross the border to Canada, and make our way down the US West Coast. Greg was supposed to come on the road with us as our "roadie" and "merch" guy [selling our t-shirts and records on the tour]. We were waiting for him to show up at our JC show that evening so that we could go over the details with him. He never came. I was a bit concerned, as he was always reliable, and I spoke with some mutual acquaintances after we played. One of our friends had a message for me : "Greg says he's at the airport in Louisville and ran into some problems, he won't be here tonight but he'll call you later". A day or two passed. I finally received a call from Greg- the day before we left for Minneapolis to begin the tour. He told me that he was out of town and couldn't make it to Cincy. He asked that I pick him up along the way on the road. In the meantime, I had heard from several friends that Greg was in trouble and that he had run afoul of the law. I won't go into details, but something was up. I asked him about this, and he confirmed it was true, even though he wouldn't explain. As much as I wanted to help him, I told Greg I couldn't try crossing the border to Canada with him. At the time, I wasn't even a US citizen. All I had was a Cuban passport with a picture of 2 year old toddler Victor in it. On the previous Edge tour in 1985, when the band crossed the border to the US after returning from Canada, I had been detained by Immigration. I'll never forget sitting in the office at Customs, under a portrait of a smiling Ronald Reagan, while immigration officers ran FBI checks on me, strip searched my band members, and constantly asked me "why haven't you become a US citizen?". The last thing I needed was to get caught crossing the border with an expired Cuban passport, transporting someone on the lam. It would have been a sucky end to the tour to get deported back to Fidel World. So I politely declined Greg's offer. I never saw him again, although he did call occasionally. He still emails me from time to time. I hope he has all his problems resolved. Greg played a major part in supporting the bands that played the Jockey Club [as well as doing merch for the club itself- who can forget the memorable JC t-shirt that he made, showing Shorty dressed as Santa Claus?]. I'm sending Bryce a photo of me from '86 with Greg's Shorty Claus shirt. Rock on Greg!
Victor Garcia-Rivera
Last Gang In Town
Miami, Florida
http://members.aol.com/lastgangintown 

Reading some of the recent entries on the Guest List brought back more memories, though not neccesarily directly dealing with the Jockey Club. I remember we [The Edge] played the last show at JR's in Clifton. I still have the flyers. It happened Saturday, April 5, 1986 with the Libertines and Doc and the Pods. That was a fantastic show, great music, the club was packed to the rafters [not hard to do with tiny JR's], and we got paid well [what a change of pace!]. That summer, JR's became BW3's and Sudsy Malones opened its doors a few months later. When Sudsys first opened, our bassist at the time, Karl Meyer, paid a visit to Cioffi [Sudsy's jefe] to bring him an Edge record and get us a gig. Cioffi told him he wasn't considering booking bands at the time. He had Pigmeat Jarrett, a cool old blues piano player, on weekends, and wanted to keep things low key. Not long after, some of the other JC bands managed to book gigs there. Cioffi saw the potential for bucks and turned it into a regular alternative music venue. I think the Summer of 1986 was a turning point in the Cincy scene.
Clifton started stealing the thunder from the Jockey Club. That same year, Dan Reed started booking Bogarts, which liberalized its booking policy [for more on that, go check out the interview I did with Neus Subjex fanzine, it's on their web page and also on the Edge web page- if you want the link, send me an email] . Bash Riprocks had a hot summer fling with acid crazed kids before the cops shut it down [I could start a whole post on Bash Riprocks, but those of you who went there for its short life span as an alternative music club know what I'm talking about]. CJ's Down Under [not sure if it was called that then or if the name changed later], which was a lesbian bar, also started booking shows under the tutelage of Dan Reed. I remember a show we played there with the Dead Milkmen and Buck Naked and the Bare Bottom Boys, "the world's only Pornobilly band" from Omaha, Nebraska. Shipleys/ Top Cats also got into the act. Bill Leist had "retired" from booking the Jockey Club that summer. I recall that most of the shows we booked at the JC in '86, I booked personally with Shorty himself. The lack of a steady booking agent [I believe Jerry Adams/ AKA Ashley Allen, Dave Dunkum of the Idiots and Ken Sims also booked various shows in Bill's absence], coupled with the hot summer [the JC was notorious for its lack of air conditioning] helped start the exodus towards Clifton. I think there was a wider variety of places to play in Cincy in 1986 than before or since- just my impression. But there's only one JC, and the JC crept on another year and a half.  It's never been replaced!
Victor Garcia-Rivera
Last Gang In Town
Miami, Florida 

to me greg cull was the t-shirt guy. he musta taken a liking to my band, but i think he liked all the JC groups, anybody who wanted shirts. he did em cheap, and followed instructions well but was an artist in his own right. put us in his catalog of punk offerings. kinda quiet guy if i recall. a visit to his "big four building" loft was always an experience to drink in. manually operating the ancient otis elevator. marble staircases. from his windows you could see where the north and south 75's merge into ft washington way and it was right outside so close you could touch it. mind blowing. i wanted to be one of the bands that played in that artist's haven, many groups were made homeless by the big fire in '87. I remember the auburnaires space down on street level was rescued by newly ex-AA scott porter who defied fire and firemen to enter and save guitars and stuff, what a hero. seemed like greg disappeared roundabouts then. i hear he bicycled off into the sunset ne'er to been seen again. 

hey my name is danny jacob and im looking for bill liest. we grew up together on the railroad tracs in newport. im now in
houston tx . please send me info.   they said he spit his head wide open . may the shot be with you bill. danny 

my mame is danny jacob and i drove a 1965 impala super sport. very slick car. bill and all of us grew up together. went to the jockey club in the early days, even before it was. i knew shorty and tiny and seen it all happen first hand. i cant even belive that im now in houston and have found this site.  it use to be a biker bar. then bill came along and here we are. and i guess what he did made a memory to all because...20 yaers later well, here we are.  daniel t jacob.  newport kentucky. 

Hi All! I made a slide show of my old pictures of the Jockey Club years. It can be found at : http://mywebpages.comcast.net/armbest/JC.html . I hope you like it. Later,  Amy Miller 

Hockey Punk, you sound like one of those people when you ask 'em for directions they tell ya not in street names but in bar locations. I like less it seems: Plaza, lame-ass bad-vibey split-in-two room, barely nice for awhile when they ran an upstairs dance scene and patio--recall Cioffi's wierd attempt to make it an unauthorized Rock Hard Cafe; received a cease and desist for his efforts. I still scratch my head at the bizarre-as-hell fact that his Sudsy's is to this day still alive and well; but a place where nationals would cycle thru? still find that really odd. Top Hat-bad news, terrible come down after the JC, making Newport seem "scuzzy again - for the first time!". Metro paid well; first good money gig, never made any money after a Jockey show, unspoken policies long in place about exploiting the locals--that's showbiz!-habits to support!? wasn't in it for the bux, just for the chance of sex. Shorty's/Chilly's--a wrong turn in the local scene as well. Daniel's: once or thrice had moments of super-rockin there; small enough to feel like you packed the place, and so was JR's (BW3 corner)-the best of the non-Jockey locales....cool bands every weeknight, no cover, coolest jukebox in town (think:Comet), & Gary Burke--a good guy. UC's Rhine Room was my brief foray into UC college life as I hung around with The Pods boys as they drank mass pitchers in the daytime. I smoked grass, albeit very carefully. Their gigs were good and promoted well, Sean Daley, right? Hot Shotz/Top Cats--good times I guess? Coulda been better....but, The Jockey Club was very good. The best. Mickey's, ABCD, Bash Riprocks, Iron Gate, Pickle Barrel, 5th Amendment, Murphy's Pub and scores of others all seem unimportant....Hey I've been seeing all my fave bands in Columbus lately, (nobody comes here) and gotta tell ya I found a pretty wild scene at a club named HIGH 5....a real fun FREAKSHOW! 

The Jockey Club was very good. So was Chilly's and Shorty's. They were in the same location on Short Vine. First one, than the other. They both went under. The Top Hat, around the block from the Jockey Club, was not my favorite. It was cramped. Sudsy's was always there for you. It had to be where the most people saw the most shows. Whatever the problems you might of had with the place, it was what there was. The Plaza was okay. I went to The Metro downtown a few times. I liked that place. Beat Club was okay for a Sunday night when nothing else was going on. Sub Galley on Short Vine was so dirty and dingy, it deserved credit for being as such. Paris was in Over The Rhine. I liked the place well enough, but I got tired of people asking me for money to watch my car every time I tried to park to go to the place. Daniel's always smelled like a sewer. But Daniel's was a good place for last call. There was once a club on Short Vine where the BW Three is now. I can't recall the name. I got drunk at the bowling alley on the UC campus once. In that student center building. Whatever it was called. The big cafeteria at UC was a hangout for a lot of people. I spent time there. I got drunk with Wildman Walker, the WEBN sports guy, a few times at the Norwood Cafe. He's an okay guy despite being on that station. The Cove was my hangout much more than the Highland Coffee House. I lived over the Cove for a few years. There was an Irish bar near the courthouse downtown I went to a few times. I don't recall the name of the place. It no longer exists. The Bearcat, across for Hughes High School, was owned by the brother of Councilman Cissell. That place was okay. I avoided Mt. Adams. But I did go to the Blind Lemon one afternoon with Scott Ritter. May he rest in peace. Annies was okay on Kellogg. River Downs on Kellogg had cheaper beer than Riverfront Stadium. I can't recall the name of the bar on High Street in Columbus I walked into and saw Dan Leonard drinking. I saw bands at the Brew House. I never hit any bar in Mt. Washington or on the West Side of town past Northside. I feel I'm leaving a lot of places out of my list. Neil Aquino. 

Message pt2  I just made the mistake of trying to read through the fucking novel that is Fanmail 1. All I can say is I am so happy to see all those names, even if some of them are messages from 3 years ago, and that I wish I had the energy to fill in about 90 of the stories I skimmed through. Obviously I missed the party (it was 3 years ago) but I especially loved reading Neil's posts (hockey punk?) and and and. and hi everyone. Anyone remember Shorty and Bud dragging Aaron out of the ladies' by his pants while menacing him with their big flashlight sticks whatever? That was at a DOA show. It was really funny. so if anyone does remember me, email please. Too many stories. crosseyed from the shock and green on black-  Wendy Darst (not to be confused with trendy wendy--I was the older one) oh--does anyone know where Joetta is? 

Hello-  Yesterday I was on the phone w/ Heather Prescott, and she asked me if I had checked out this site yet. It is testament to the indelible impression this place made that we'd be wasting hours of LD time rehashing those years, and still figuring out some of what happened. Anyway, due all the alcohol damage I often wonder if I remember anything, especially shows, since I think I was out pretty much every night from 1983-1998 or so...but these pictures were from some of the most major events I remember at the Jockey. Being basted in henry r.'s copious sweat at that Black Flag show, the near death by stage dive at Husker Du (some one caught me by the ANKLES?!?!), a bewildered Metallica standing inthe men's bathroom backwash as the Ramones' crowd emptied out...blah blah on forever. Thank you for the pictures of the ladies room, as that was truly the hangout at one time. Anyway, color me impressed. If I had any photos I would share them, but I needed both hands for the oil cans. Does anyone else remember drinking some left over years old bicentennial or something beer Shorty was handing out, or their stories about feeding the inmates of the jail on white castles? and how the gutters ran with half digested sliders? Or so Bud said. I can't believe I remember anything.  I'll keep checking for photos and all! Thanks! Wendy Darst (red head in Manwich, former full time drunk) 

CHARLIE PICKETT here.  Just wanted to chime in with an outsider's view of the Jockey Club.  You all had a wonderful scene in Cinn/Newport.  From 1984 through 1988, we (Charlie Pickett and the Eggs, later, Charlie Pickett and the MC3) played several hundred shows all over the country.  The Jockey Club audience was EXCEPTIONAL.  You seemed to be fun-loving and very nice ... and seemed like you just wanted to raise a little dust on a weekend night. First trip (not on the JC gig calendar but unless I've got Alzheimer's, it was summer of 1984) to the JC was a great boost for us.  We had spent the summer gigging the the Northeast and were centered in NYC.  Seemed like every dope dealer in greater NY was waiting for us.  Johnny Salton developed a big uh, problem and he and I fell out.  He flew back to Miami the day before we were to leave for Minneapolis to play the 7th Street Entry in Minneapolis and audition for the Twin-Tone records folks. I asked Mike Pettit (Miami guy, Psycho Daisies) to pay bass and asked Dave Froshneider to switch to lead guitar.  WITH NO PRACTICE in that line-up (Johnny Galway on drums), we left for our first show, the Jockey Club.  When we got there, we were met by Joe Ham, I believe, who either played or ran sound that night.  Everyone seemed real normal to me (maybe because I was born in Athens, Ohio).  Anyway, enough people showed up to have some BIG FUN.  At the end, people were onstage singing our signature song, If This Is Love, Can I Get My Money Back?, and one guy was running around with a large American flag as a cape.  We played well and had a great time.  The audience reaction calmed our jitters about not having played together before.  We played one more show--either in Chicago or Madison--then went on to Minneapolis and were signed to Twin-Tone.  I believe the opening act that first trip was The Thangs or SS-20.  And as sweet icing on the cake, we met some great girls. We played the Jockey Club several other times--always to a nice turnout for the "not big" band we were.  Once we played around the time they blew the bridge over the Ohio river just down the hill on US 27 (which as you know, ran directly in front of the Jockey Club).  When we played there in the winter of 1985, we stayed 1-2 nights with some folks that were squatting above a barbeque place in Newport.  In the morning (about noon for bands), we would wake up with the smell of the slow-cooked barbeque seeking up through the old wood building.  We'd rush straight down and have barbeque for breakfast--eating it on the sidewalk around the corner.  The last time we stayed with these folks, a couple of them (an oriental girl and a kid who aspired to be a DJ) rode home with us to Miami.  We were gigging our way home so the trip lasted two weeks or so. The Jockey Club was well run, a pleasant contrast to most of the punk clubs of the day.  The room handled sound well and we loved its roots.  I stayed in touch with one girl I met there for many years and always tell my wife about the Jockey Club every time we pass through Cinn/Newport.  For anyone who remembers us, Johnny Galway and Mike Pettit passed away (much too young).  Dave Froshneider owns and runs a pack-and-mail store in Los Angeles.  I'm a married lawyer with a six year old son.  Road Manager, Richard Shelter, is still involved in the business side of music in L.A. and Johnny Salton has kept the Psycho Daisies going to this day.  I play with them occasionally.  However, Salton has enphlusema (can't spell it) bad.  We all love to rock.  Bless you folks at the Jockey Club.  I will remember you forever.  Best wishes and much love to all. 

Doesn't anyone have time to reminisce? Shit people, if your too caught up in your lives to say hi, something is wrong. Let's not let this web page die. Thanks again for the memories. Hard-core to the end.       Tammy 

I saw the Violent Femmes at the Jockey Club!  They filed in from the back, following the drummer. They stopped right at my table!  I saw Love and Rockets, there, too--Didn't their van get stolen?  I remember after a Husker Du show people had been slamming in the bathroom and knocked the stalls off the wall.  Upon seeing the damage, Shorty said, "If I catch anybody doing that again...I'll give 'em a hickey right on their haid!"  And Circle Jerks and Black Flag, and countless others.  I think TSOL played there too, although I may not remember... 

I was just watching a few minutes of a Vancouver Canucks hockey game. It reminded me of my well spent youth. One day, when I was younger, I was walking down York Street, wearing a Vancouver Canucks hockey jersey, and this white van slowed down and started following me. It turned out that D.O.A. was in the van. One of the D.O.A. people shouted, "Hey, where did you get that?" That was a good moment in my life.  Neil Aquino 

Does anyone remember The Samhain show? I'm not sure what year it was however, I do know someone out there has a picture of Samhain and some of us hardcores on stage. That was a great show! Amy Miller and I were so broke we sat in the "lobby" with signs on are shirt that said 'got a quarter'? One of the guys from Samhain gave us each a quarter, I think it might of been Glen Danzing, little fuzzy on that. I do remember Bill Leist felt sorry for us and let us in. He did that a couple of times, thanks Bill!   Tammy (Z) 

Greg, the people who know you, know where you are. Mum's the word. We miss you! I forgot about your damn bug, until Billy Brady mentioned it. What the hell was wrong with that car? We were always pushing it, to jump start it. Greg E-mail me.
Can someone tell me why Gang Green seemed to always be playing at the Jockey? Even at my going away party in 85? They were playing. Icck. Comment to the 45 grave person. Yes, I remember 45 grave. When they played at the Jockey, I was
somewhat disabled with a bum foot. Good OLE Amy Miller, brought them to my house, I think they were driving a limo, or maybe a Hearst? They were so cool. They gave us toys to play with, fake fingers, etc. That was the thing about punk bands the ones we met and partied with, were all very down to earth. Except for Battalion of Saints, they kidnapped Allegra, does anyone remember that? It may have been Broken Bones, I know they both played that night and I was tripping on Acid for my first time in public. Ah, the good days. Won't touch that shit now. When is the next reunion?   Tammy Z 

I remember my old friend Greg Cull he drove a bug and had to park it on a ramp across from the backside of the jc parking lot. It had a bad something I cant remember but the only way he could get his car to start was to roll down the ramp. When you park on the slippery slope anything can happen. Long live Greg. I hope he is well and as far as Tammy Z goes welcome back and hope to see you back in Cincy soon. 

My story? Hmmm...well, I first got into the scene in 1984 when I met Lee Morrissey. His brother Brendan actually gave me my first mohawk. I went to my first JC show the same year I believe... a Gang Green concert. I can still hear "Skate to Hell" playing. I can't remember the name of the girl I went to the show with, but I only saw her once after that and she was married and being beat by her husband at that time. Anyway, I met Bryna at a JC show as well. I was ripped on Fosters, in the pit, and getting stomped. She dragged me out and took me in for the night. That was the beginning of a great friendship which I hold dear to this day. I saw lots of bands at the JC, as everyone did..I even remember seeing the Rollins Band when they first formed. I think there were maybe 10 people at the show. LOL They sucked. Mentors, Black Flag, etc.....saw them all at the JC. The JC was a rare experience, and like the Hippie Movement, if you weren't there, you simply weren't truly alive.  Jake    p.s. As an aside, I've been toying with the idea of a JC radio show, playing lots of old hardcore, local bands etc. who were JC material. What do you think? 

Hi, I'm Michele. I write you to ask you a great favour... I collect the nightclubs' flyers and it's not easy to find them! So, I asked me, if you could send me some of them!?  I hope you help me...THANKS A LOT  Michele  P.S. Sorry for my little english! My address:

Michele De Notaristefani
Via A.Minichini, 30
80034 Marigliano (NA)
Italy 

Hey, I just got a call from Bill too, except it was 2:30am thursday and he hung up. Good ol' *69...... 

Que pasa people? Victor Garcia-Rivera here from sunny Miami, Florida. Got a phone call last night from Bill Leist.
Had a good time chewing the fat with old Billy, lamenting the current state of music and longing for a "time machine" to go back to that seedy but wonderful "Way Back When" [oye Bill, when you find that machine, give me a call!] Bill and I discussed the idea of doing a show the next couple of months in Cincy, maybe at Southgate House or possibly elsewhere. No, this is not a "Jockey Club" reunion redux. When I was in Cincy in December, some folks asked me why I didn't play with The Edge, at the last shindig, or go to the last reunion. Without getting bogged down in details, politics played a big part in who got to play, according to Billy, and I drew the short straw. But as much as he enjoyed the last reunion, Bill confided he would love to do a show with the people who played in what we'll call the "Spirit of '77" bands, for lack of a better term. That includes our bands {the Edge, The Reduced] as well as Snare and the Idiots, SS20, and others in what Bill loosely terms "slop gut-bucket rock n roll". So we're in the process of getting it together. It's a bit complicated, seeing as how I have to make a 1000 mile trek to do this [no big deal for yours truly, I logged 300,000 miles in the infamous "Edgemobile" van in the 1980s playing in dozens of states and provinces of North America], plus I was planning to visit family in Cincy this spring. So this is a curtain call for all you old rock and rollers who were part of our scene back then and who want to join in- contact Bill or me if you're interested. We may even have some kind of jam session at the end. It'll be loose, it'll be fun, and it WILL rock like the JC of old. By the way, due to the difficulties of lugging heavy musical equipment a thousand miles, we may need to borrow backlines and maybe a drum kit, so if any volunteers are out there, get in touch. Hopefully, we'll get the JC "non-reunion" going sometime in April or May [providing there are no more riots in Cincinnati, of course]. For those who want to know what I'm up to now- check out my current band's web page: http://members.aol.com/lastgangintown If you liked what I did with the Edge, you'll likely dig Last Gang In Town. By the way, we have a VINYL single coming out in the Spring! I also have a web page up for the Edge, with some photos, discographies, etc. [I'll be expanding it soon to include photos from the JC]: http://members.aol.com/roquero/edge.html  I found out recently that a Japanese band covered one of my songs from the first Edge record. They are called "Tom And The Boot Boys"- an Oi band from Japan! The Edge song they covered was "Leave Home", and it is on a split 10" record with the Dropkick Murphys on the other side, on the TKO Records label [hey TKO Records- where are my royalties???????] I can't tell if they are singing in Japanese, or just mumbling the words real fast [their version is almost thrash metal, kinda like early DRI, whom the Edge opened for on their first JC appearance way back in May, 1984] It's kinda humorous when a band on the other side of the world covers what I consider to be one of the worst songs I ever wrote, but it's a freak show, ain't it? Oh, and Greg Cull- if you are lurking out there- you sent me an Instant Message a couple years ago- if you're not still on the lam, see if you can play this show with us [Greg was the infamous Harmonica player for the late lamented Boondocks, but better known as the "T-Shirt guy" who made all those classic Jockey Club Tees, as well as T-Shirts for The Edge, SS 20, and many more!] Hasta luego, amigos- Victor 

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